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Holly challenges former firefighter over ‘run of the mill’ Grenfell remark – The News


 Holly Willoughby challenged a former firefighter today during a discussion about the Grenfell Tower fire report  A report into the tragedy has claimed many lives would have been saved if the fire service’s ‘stay put’ strategy been called off  It also found that the tower block’s cladding did not comply with building regulations and was the “principal” reason for the fire’s rapid and “profoundly shocking” spread  During a discussion on This Morning, Holly interrupted ex-fire fighter and safety expert, Bob Collins, after his “run of the mill” remark  On whether the ‘stay put’ policy should have been changed, Bob said: “I’m sure it would have made some difference We know how many people died in the incident.  “Perhaps what we don’t look at is what would have happened if we changed the policy People may still have died and been injured.”  “The inquiry might then have said ‘why did you change the policy from stay put?’ It’s been well tested for years and years  “The London Fire Brigade have more high rises than anywhere in the country, The fire brigade is well versed in tackling high rise fires In the run of the mill they don’t cause any problems.”  Holly, who was also joined by survivor Miguel Alves interrupted and hit back by insisting Grenfell was not a “run of the mill” fire  She said: “But this wasn’t run of the mill. And as Miguel just said his instinct, not with any expertise in fire at all, instinctively he looked at that and went ‘I need to get out’ Instinctively people can’t see why it wasn’t changed.”  Bob replied: “I understand from his point of view and people looking on from the side What would you have done? I remember seeing that on the TV and thinking what would I do if I turned up in a fire engine? What would my priorities be?”  Bob continued to reiterate that the 50-year-old building was built on a “principle of compartmentation” and it was a “unique situation”  He said that the blame lied with the cladding and building regulations “without a shadow of a doubt”  They were joined by survivor Miguel Alves and his daughter, who took her chemistry GCSE on the morning of the fire  He went up to the 13th floor to wake up his wife and kids and saved everyone else on that level  Miguel said: “Justice is that a second Grenfell doesn’t happen again. That’s the most important thing  “People won’t die for a reason. We have to change in the future. We should not be living in that death trap ”   *This Morning airs weekdays on ITV at 10.30am

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